Episode 5 of our pandemically produced programs finds Marc Stern and Dave Goodman speaking with journalist and activist BOB DATZ, a survivor of the massacre at Kent State University in May 1970. Four students killed, nine seriously wounded and a generation mobilized to fight for peace and human rights. And as Bob tells us, to shake people out of the belief that democracy and apathy can coexist. Music by Holly Near "It Could Have Been Me," and CSNY "Ohio."